Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/07/2007 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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9:42:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 27(HES)                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to eligibility requirements for medical                                                                   
     assistance for certain children, pregnant women, disabled                                                                  
     persons,  and  persons  in   medical  or  intermediate  care                                                               
     facilities; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the first hearing for this bill in the Senate Finance                                                                  
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman announced intent to hear bill but not take                                                                     
action on it at this time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:43:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM OBERMEYER, Staff to Senator Bettye Davis, sponsor of the                                                                    
bill, presented the bill, reading the following statement into                                                                  
the record.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This was an  Act relating to medical  assistance for certain                                                               
     children,  pregnant   women  and   persons  in   medical  or                                                               
     immediate care  facilities, and  providing for  an effective                                                               
     date.                                                                                                                      
     The  focus of  this  bill initially  is  the Denali  KidCare                                                               
     portion of  the State's children's health  insurance program                                                               
     that is sponsored throughout all 50 states.                                                                                
     In Alaska there are  an estimated 18,000 uninsured children,                                                               
     or  about nine  percent of  the  children under  age 18  and                                                               
     under.  Private  health  care   coverage  for  children  has                                                               
     declined  over 30  percent  in  the last  ten  years. It  is                                                               
     estimated that children  with a medical need  are five times                                                               
     as likely  that are uninsured  as to  not to have  a regular                                                               
     doctor as those insured children  and four times more likely                                                               
     to use emergency rooms at a much higher cost.                                                                              
     The  eligibility rates  in Alaska  dropped dramatically  for                                                               
     children  after  the  formula   was  changed  in  2003.  The                                                               
     eligibility rates  had been  frozen in  2003 at  the federal                                                               
     poverty  levels  at that  time,  which  was a  fixed  dollar                                                               
     amount. It was  reduced from 200 percent to  175 percent and                                                               
     under  Senate  Bill 27,  eligibility  for  persons under  19                                                               
     would  increase to  200  percent of  the  poverty level  and                                                               
     requires  others   who  qualify  and  can   afford  to  make                                                               
     contributions toward that coverage.                                                                                        
     Without Senate Bill 27, it's  estimated that our eligibility                                                               
     rate in, since it was a  fixed dollar amount in 2003 and now                                                               
     floating  with the  federal poverty  guidelines, as  all the                                                               
     other states,  that our eligibility  rate would drop  to 154                                                               
     percent and  it may drop  below 150 percent, at  which point                                                               
     Alaska will  loose immediately 3 million  in federal funding                                                               
     and the  State has  already had 2,553  children drop  off of                                                               
     this program.                                                                                                              
     There  were 7,600  children covered  by this  program as  of                                                               
     December  of  2006.  We've  lost over  30  percent  of  them                                                               
     already due to  this fixed guideline and  these children are                                                               
     going to  also incur  greater health  coverage later  on. So                                                               
     you  essentially  have  a  transfer   costs  here  to  other                                                               
     elements  of government  as they  require additional  health                                                               
     care  coverage  later  on  for failure  to  help  them  when                                                               
     they're children.                                                                                                          
     So nothing  has really changed  on this other than  the fact                                                               
     that  there  have  been   other  bills  addressed  regarding                                                               
     similar  subjects. We  do have  people  from the  department                                                               
     here that might assist with  some of the dollar amounts, but                                                               
     I must  note for the  record, that the children  provide the                                                               
     least costly types covered under  this type of program. It's                                                               
     an  estimated at  about $1,700  per child  compared to  many                                                               
     thousands for severely disabled  and elderly and health care                                                               
     facilities and so forth.                                                                                                   
     The  numbers  that  came  across from  other  bills  can  be                                                               
     addressed by the State, but it  may be as little as $783,000                                                               
     out of the federal fund.  Federal share again at an enhanced                                                               
     share rate  of 70  percent, which is  a bargain  in anyone's                                                               
     analysis would be  a total Denali KidCare cost  of maybe two                                                               
     million six or seven hundred thousand dollars.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:47:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BETTYE  DAVIS spoke to  the need of this  legislation and                                                               
the many  people dependant  upon the  legislature to  address the                                                               
Denali KidCare program during this  session. This bill included a                                                               
component  that would  "alleviate some  of the  problems that  we                                                               
will have  if we  don't implement this."  She indicated  a figure                                                               
[not specified]  related to the  bill, as well as  another figure                                                               
[not specified] of 175. If  passage were dependant upon the lower                                                               
figure, she would agree to it  "because that would be better than                                                               
nothing".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:48:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  directed attention  to AS  47.17.020(b)(6) amended                                                               
by Section  1 on page 2,  lines 15 through 19.  This subparagraph                                                               
related to "persons  in a medical or  intermediate care facility"                                                               
and amended the  income qualification to "not  exceed 300 percent                                                               
of  the  supplemental  security  income  benefit".  The  existing                                                               
statute  specified  the  income qualification  as  not  exceeding                                                               
$1,656  a  month. He  asked  the  current  dollar amount  of  300                                                               
percent of supplemental security income.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:49:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Obermeyer  deferred to  the Department  of Health  and Social                                                               
Services.   He  noted   that  seven   other  states   utilized  a                                                               
qualification of 300 percent or  more and that 39 states provided                                                               
services for  those whose  income did not  exceed 200  percent of                                                               
the supplement  security benefit.  Existing Alaska  statute fixed                                                               
the income  amount at "the  very lowest level was  something like                                                               
$1,635  per month".  This amount  had been  established utilizing                                                               
the federal poverty guideline as a  base. The change from a fixed                                                               
income  amount  to  a percentage  of  the  supplemental  security                                                               
benefit  was intended  to eliminate  the need  for each  state to                                                               
annually  amend  its  statute  to  reflect  the  current  federal                                                               
guideline level.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:50:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  commented that the  legislature "had  always faced                                                               
pressure  to put  escalator clauses"  into  its budget.  Although                                                               
this was a simple method, it  concerned him, as it embedded these                                                               
clauses into the operating budget.  A discussion on this practice                                                               
should be held.  He also wanted to know the  actual dollar amount                                                               
calculated for this bill for comparison purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:51:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman agreed with Senator  Dyson's concern and advised                                                               
that this issue should be monitored.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:52:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  requested  information  regarding  the  fiscal                                                               
notes accompanying this bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:52:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET CLARKE,  Assistant Commissioner,  Department of  Health and                                                               
Social Services,  testified to  a table  titled, "SB  27 Summary"                                                               
that outlined  the costs to  implement this legislation  [copy on                                                               
file]. The  provision Senator Dyson  questioned was  not included                                                               
in other legislation addressing  the Denali KidCare program. Four                                                               
years  ago,  eligibility for  the  program  was codified  at  175                                                               
percent of  the federal  poverty level and  the income  amount to                                                               
qualify for  care in an  intermediate care facility  was codified                                                               
in  statute.   The  population  served  by   the  latter  program                                                               
qualified  for  nursing   home  care  or  had   a  disability  as                                                               
determined by  the federal Social Security  Administration, was a                                                               
different  population  than that  served  by  the Denali  KidCare                                                               
program, and was more expensive.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:54:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke pointed  out  that  because of  the  addition of  the                                                               
change  to  the  nursing  home  and  intermediate  care  facility                                                               
program,  the  fiscal  notes for  this  bill  were  significantly                                                               
higher than the  fiscal notes accompanying the  other bills. This                                                               
bill  would  "unfreeze"  the eligibility  requirements  for  both                                                               
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  explained that SB  27 would unfreeze  the eligibility                                                               
requirement for the Denali KidCare  program at 200 percent of the                                                               
federal poverty level and unfreeze  the "special population group                                                               
at 300 percent as well."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  noted the  fiscal  note  estimates did  not  include                                                               
administrative costs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  overviewed the  aforementioned table,  which provided                                                               
an  enrollment  summary  of  children,  pregnant  women  and  the                                                               
"special income group". The fiscal  notes reflect that in 2008 an                                                               
additional  2,553 children,  436 pregnant  women and  106 special                                                               
income individuals  would be eligible for  the Medicaid services.                                                               
Expenditures   to  serve   the  additional   children  would   be                                                               
$3,905,000, expenditures  to serve the additional  pregnant women                                                               
would  be $1,401,000,  and expenditures  to serve  the additional                                                               
special  income individuals  would be  $6,103,000. These  amounts                                                               
total $11.4 million, not including administrative costs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  reemphasized that  the majority of  the cost  of this                                                               
legislation  would   be  the  additional   participants  eligible                                                               
through the special income group.  Nursing home care and services                                                               
for those with disabilities are the most costly.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:57:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  stated   that  the  total  cost   to  implement  the                                                               
legislation before the Committee would be $4.6 million.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:57:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton asked  if the  ratio of  federal funds  to general                                                               
fund matching funds was the  same for services for pregnant women                                                               
and children and services for the special income group.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:57:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke answered  that the State did not  receive an "enhanced                                                               
rate"  for services  provided to  the special  income group.  The                                                               
regular Medicaid rate was currently 57.58 percent.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:58:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton clarified that a  higher percentage of general fund                                                               
matching funds  was required for  services to the  special income                                                               
group  than  was required  for  services  to pregnant  women  and                                                               
children.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:58:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  affirmed  and  pointed   out  that  the  spreadsheet                                                               
demonstrated the "melding" of the different rates.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:58:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson, in  reviewing the annual costs of  services to the                                                               
special income group, noted that  the cost increases between 2008                                                               
and 2013 would  only be $3 million. He asked  the validity of the                                                               
projections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:59:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke told  of a  study conducted  by the  Lewin Group  and                                                               
released the previous year that  developed a Medicaid forecasting                                                               
model  to estimate  future Medicaid  costs. The  report predicted                                                               
that  the special  income population  would remain  "fairly flat"                                                               
for approximately eight years after  which it "really takes off".                                                               
The  cost  estimates for  the  years  listed on  the  spreadsheet                                                               
reflected that period of flat population growth.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:59:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLOVER  SIMON, Chief  Executive  Officer,  Planned Parenthood  of                                                               
Alaska,  testified via  teleconference  from  an offnet  location                                                               
that  she  also was  a  social  worker with  approximately  eight                                                               
years'  experience working  with low  income women  and children.                                                               
She read her testimony into the record as follows.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     I support the increase in  eligibility for Denali KidCare to                                                               
     the  200 percent  of the  federal  poverty level.  Providing                                                               
     health  care  early  in a  woman's  pregnancy  improves  the                                                               
     health outcomes for  both the woman and the  child. I really                                                               
     feel  it  should  be  a  priority  in  Alaska  to  have  the                                                               
     healthiest children that we can.                                                                                           
     I urge the  members to consider this  increase. I understand                                                               
     the  members' concern  regarding  fiscal  escalators in  the                                                               
     budget. However,  I want to  remind you that  spending money                                                               
     now  saves money  in  the  long run  for  the management  of                                                               
     chronic preventable illnesses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:00:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LEONARD  FANCHER, lifelong  Alaskan,  representing Mighty  Bikes,                                                               
testified via teleconference from an  offnet location in favor of                                                               
the  bill.  For  eight  years  he has  volunteered  for  a  youth                                                               
recreation  program  teaching  children  to  ride  bicycles.  The                                                               
program  encouraged children  to get  physical exercise  "off the                                                               
couch  away from  T.V. and  video games."  It was  important that                                                               
kids  stay physically  active  and  to have  the  best access  to                                                               
health care possible so they  could remain healthy. Approximately                                                               
18,000 children  were currently not covered  by health insurance.                                                               
These  children were  from working  families whose  employers did                                                               
not  provide insurance.  The federal  government  was willing  to                                                               
contribute 70 percent of the  cost to provide insurance for these                                                               
children. With the  State contribution of 30 percent,  this was a                                                               
"bargain" and the State could "well afford" the expense.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:02:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID   ALEXANDER  MD,   Retired   Pediatrician,  testified   via                                                               
teleconference  from Anchorage,  about  the wide  support of  the                                                               
Denali  KidCare   program  and  this  legislation.   He  recently                                                               
attended a  gathering of Anchorage Faith  in Action Congregations                                                               
Together -  the AFACT, along  with approximately 200  others. The                                                               
attendees were  all in favor  of improving health  care coverage.                                                               
He read the following testimony into the record.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     There  is absolutely  no question  that routine  health care                                                               
     provides better health and therefore  better living both for                                                               
     kids  and for  adults. Poor  health means  you miss  work or                                                               
     school or else you just miss-perform.                                                                                      
     Since 2003 when  Denali KidCare was cut back,  most of these                                                               
     cut out  [from the program]  could not afford  buying health                                                               
     care. So many of them did  not get routine care. They missed                                                               
     a lot more school and if  needed, went to an emergency room;                                                               
     and because the federal government  says ERs must be willing                                                               
     to give free  care if needed, so Alaska  emergency rooms are                                                               
     now  having  some  $90  million  of  unpaid  emergency  room                                                               
     charges. So the rest of us  therefore have to pay a lot more                                                               
     to cover those unpaid fees.                                                                                                
     There is  no question  that the  State Legislature  did save                                                               
     some  money  - obviously  the  rest  of  us lost  money.  In                                                               
     addition, since  the federal government  pays 70  percent of                                                               
     the  charges  under  each   state's  CHIP,  children  health                                                               
     insurance  program,  that  meant  the State  lost  a  couple                                                               
     million dollars in federal support.                                                                                        
     It is  also very important  to realize  35 to 40  percent of                                                               
     money  that  goes  to  insurance  companies  goes  to  their                                                               
     overhead  expenses,  while only  five  to  eight percent  of                                                               
     money that goes to government  health coverage goes into the                                                               
     maintenance   of   those  programs.   Therefore   government                                                               
     programs  provide  about  50   percent  more  actual  health                                                               
     coverage than  insurance companies  do with the  same amount                                                               
     of funding.                                                                                                                
     So supporting  these new proposals will  improve health care                                                               
     for the  kids; improve  their ability  to attend  school and                                                               
     actually greatly  decrease the health expenses  of the whole                                                               
     State.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JANICE   TOWER,   Executive   Director,   American   Academy   of                                                               
Pediatrics,  Alaska Chapter,  testified  via teleconference  from                                                               
Anchorage  about the  organization's long  term goal  of insuring                                                               
all children  in Alaska. The  Alaska chapter  currently consisted                                                               
of 87 pediatricians located throughout  the state. She understood                                                               
the  Committee's  time  constraints  and the  necessity  to  make                                                               
important priority  decisions. Children should be  considered the                                                               
highest priority.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Tower reported  that 39  other states  provide coverage  for                                                               
children  living at  up to  200  percent of  the federal  poverty                                                               
level.  Alaska was  ranked "in  the bottom  five". The  states of                                                               
Montana and  South Carolina  covered children  at 150  percent of                                                               
the federal  poverty level.  Only North  Dakota and  South Dakota                                                               
provided coverage to  a lower rate of 140 percent  of the federal                                                               
poverty  level;  however,  that coverage  was  not  "artificially                                                               
restricted".  With   the  "poverty  percentage   reduction",  the                                                               
coverage provided in  Alaska had decreased to 154  percent of the                                                               
federal poverty level.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Tower stated  that the  states  of California,  Connecticut,                                                               
Maryland, Massachusetts,  Missouri and Vermont  provided coverage                                                               
for participants  with up to  300 percent of the  federal poverty                                                               
level. New Hampshire provided coverage  for children living up to                                                               
400  percent  of the  federal  poverty  level. Illinois  provided                                                               
"unlimited coverage" with a "program  buy-in" to allow some level                                                               
of coverage to all children at an affordable rate.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tower  disapproved of the  coverage provided by the  state of                                                               
Alaska  in  comparison  to   other  states.  Significant  revenue                                                               
sources  existed for  the State  from natural  resources, tourism                                                               
and other activities.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:07:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SARA   JACKSON,  Board   Member,   Anchorage   Faith  in   Action                                                               
Congregations  Together,   and  "human   services  professional",                                                               
testified   via   teleconference    from   Anchorage   that   the                                                               
organization was comprised of 15  local churches "concerned about                                                               
this issue".  She told  of her family's  experience in  which her                                                               
granddaughter received "inconsistent  and inadequate" health care                                                               
although  her   mother  worked   full  time.   Her  granddaughter                                                               
experienced complex  medical conditions  and during  most crises,                                                               
the family incurred  significant medical debt and had  to rely on                                                               
the  "mercy  of  a  kind doctor."  The  family  "celebrated"  the                                                               
creation of  Denali KidCare and  the granddaughter  qualified for                                                               
services under the  income provision of less than  200 percent of                                                               
the  federal  poverty  level.  She was  able  to  receive  dental                                                               
preventative care, an eye examination  and other needed services.                                                               
Two  years later,  however, she  was "dropped"  from the  program                                                               
because  her mother  earned  $100 per  month  over the  allowable                                                               
income amount. Ongoing  counseling and other medical  care was no                                                               
longer available.  As a  child of the  working middle  class, the                                                               
granddaughter  was  part of  a  significant  population that  was                                                               
"medically neglected."  Ms. Jackson spoke to  the hesitancies and                                                               
delays of  parents in  seeking medical  care for  their children.                                                               
This could exacerbate simple medical conditions.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:10:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA CASTLE  testified via  teleconference from  Anchorage that                                                               
she  had  previously  received health  care  through  the  Denali                                                               
KidCare program  under the 150  percent of federal  poverty level                                                               
income provision. However,  she was "cut" and was  no longer able                                                               
to  continue her  counseling  treatment or  receive  care from  a                                                               
pediatric   endocrinologist   for   her  diabetes.   To   receive                                                               
treatment, she  had to go to  an emergency room. Children  in the                                                               
state of  Alaska need  health care whether  or not  their parents                                                               
have funding to pay for it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:11:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ANGELA LISTON, Anchorage Faith  in Action Congregations Together,                                                               
testified via teleconference from  Anchorage that over 200 people                                                               
recently  gathered  in  a  local church  to  speak  about  Denali                                                               
KidCare.  Many  family members  shared  "one  horror story  after                                                               
another"  about caring  for their  children's health  needs since                                                               
the reduction  to the  Denali KidCare  program four  years prior.                                                               
These family  members were  employed and  therefore could  not be                                                               
present  to  testify  at this  hearing.  They  represented  every                                                               
ethnic  group,  15  faith communities  and  all  social  economic                                                               
groups. Additionally,  religious leaders in the  state, including                                                               
Catholic  bishops,  Presbyterian  ministers, a  Russian  Orthodox                                                               
bishop and  Lutheran bishops, had  joined the  AFACT organization                                                               
in  supporting  an  increase  to   the  Denali  KidCare  program.                                                               
Recently  AFACT  met with  US  Senator  Lisa Murkowski  and  were                                                               
assured that  she and US Senator  Ted Stevens were seeking  an S-                                                               
CHIP  reauthorization  to  allow states  the  "broadest  possible                                                               
latitude".   If  that   latitude  were   granted,  it   would  be                                                               
unfortunate  if Alaska  did not  take advantage  of it.  Coverage                                                               
should  be extended  at least  to  those children  living at  200                                                               
percent of the federal poverty level.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:13:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WALTER  MAJOROS,  Executive   Director,  Juneau  Youth  Services,                                                               
President,  Alaska Association  of Homes  for Children,  and Vice                                                               
President,  Alaska Behavioral  Health  Association, testified  in                                                               
Juneau, in  support of this  legislation. He spoke to  the impact                                                               
of  Denali  KidCare  on children's  behavioral  health  services,                                                               
specifically for  children with severe mental  health problems as                                                               
well  as children  with substance  abuse  problems. Juneau  Youth                                                               
Services (JYS)  serves approximately  700 of these  children each                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Majoros informed that Denali  KidCare was the primary funding                                                               
source  for  children's  behavioral health  services  in  Alaska,                                                               
providing  75  to 80  percent.  Effective  implementation of  the                                                               
Bring the  Kids Home initiative  was impossible without  a viable                                                               
funding  source. A  diminished  funding source  results in  fewer                                                               
children able to  access care in the state  and subsequently more                                                               
children   transferred  to   receive  treatment   in  residential                                                               
psychiatric facilities  in the Lower  48. The number  of children                                                               
eligible for  services through JYS  had declined from  75 percent                                                               
to  69  percent. This  trend  is  similar statewide.  Alaska  was                                                               
ranked the  third lowest "eligibility  threshold" at  154 percent                                                               
of the  federal poverty level.  Additionally fewer  children were                                                               
covered by  private health care  insurance. All  Alaskan children                                                               
should have access  to health care services and  the State should                                                               
"invest early"  in children's health to  prevent serious problems                                                               
from developing.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:16:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Davis  considered  this  legislation  one  of  the  most                                                               
important  bills under  consideration  this legislative  session.                                                               
She advised the Committee to "do  the right thing", to debate the                                                               
issue and report  the bill from Committee. She  would not dictate                                                               
the exact percentage  of the federal poverty level  to be adopted                                                               
for income eligibility,  but stressed it should not  be less than                                                               
175 percent.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:17:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson requested  comment on the inclusion  of the special                                                               
income group.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:18:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Davis  admitted extension  of services  to those  in this                                                               
group living  at 300 percent  of the federal poverty  level would                                                               
triple the cost to implement  this legislation, but stated it was                                                               
an important issue that must  be addressed. However, if extension                                                               
of the  Denali KidCare program  were dependant upon  the deletion                                                               
of the  provision to  accommodate the  special income  group, she                                                               
would not oppose the change.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The bill was HELD in Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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